He was carried a short distance to an RAF Sea King helicopter which had flown to the fell. Through summer & even in wet conditions it can seem quite a mild scramble. He is fine has just returned from spear fishing in Wales and is already planning his return to the Lake District to raise money for the MRT and air ambulance who clearly saved his life. I was at the bottom of the of the three and was convinced that he was going to fall and and knock me off the ledge. A. Jacks Rake is a great scramble with exposed parts just like most scrambles. Competitions    The majority of the scramble was OK for my average ability, but the worst point was just past the open section. I can only assume that you are referring to Trail magazine. Is Jacks rake a grade 1 scramble? This is nothing whatsoever to do with age per-se and all about experience and ability. The hardest bit for him was having to be patient and wait for his old man. Q. Susannah Cox, 37, of Lancaster died after falling from the grade 1 scramble in Great Langdale on 20 June, five days after 48-year-old Howard Gladwyn, of Menston, West Yorkshire, suffered a similar fate. Just out of interest, what kit were they using? I have taken my 8 and 10 year old up this in fairly dodgy weather conditions, but both of them are experienced and excellent climbers who have spent many hours on rock and in the mountains. What is the best time to start the British 3 Peaks challenge. Rant over. All content is copyright © grough.co.uk 2006-2021, unless otherwise stated. A. I think the problem is peoples understanding of 'Scrambling'. All rights reserved. But please can we get a sense of perspective of risk, can we also remember that the hills are for all and that hillwalking / scrambling, climbing, mountaineering, etc are actually relatively safe activities with relatively few fatalities when compared to many other sports and activities? Routes like this are for experienced individuals with knowledge of the fells, not tourists with ideas above their stations. It crosses a massive cliff, for heaven's sake! The problem with fear is that it doesn't pay any regard to logic and I remember having to force myself to think clearly. Fortunately he didn't and we completed the climb but I would never have done Jack's Rake had I known the risks. I had researched the route thoroughly and have been 'walking' to the top of mountains for twenty years so felt that I had the skills to get to the top. They have also been over Crib Goch (The elder, now 12 has also done the full Snowdon Horseshoes in winter conditions!). they had enough sense to know their limits. Scrambling in any form is effectively easy grade UN roped rock climbing however on grades 2 and above or even 1 in really poor conditions sometimes ropes are used to safeguard on steep ground. I always solo, I spend (on average) 2 days per week, every week, in the hills, in all conditions, all seasons. A simple wiki search will give you the definition. There are also some places that are extremely exposed so a head for heights is certainly required. Banning people like this is just a knee jerk reaction whilst it is indeed very sad when people get injured or killed. } else { Last month we got a chance to join in a climbing club doing Cam Crag (roped) which was excellent. I hope the poor kid makes a good recovery and the mum forgives the dad and it doesn'tput them off the outdoors. however, most people don't bother, hence the inherent risk in scrambling. Find New Walking Friends    A five yr old! Comments like, "its just the Cambrian fells" are all too common. Walk Search    Yes its not the Alps, but a short fall can lead to a fatality and its still a mountainous area, that demands knowledge and experience, (and appropriate kit). This is a very committing scramble and reversal is not an easy option. In separate incidents, two walkers fell to their deaths from Jack's Rake in June 2012. ° What is the best time to start the British 3 Peaks challenge, . I remember seeing two guys starting off along Crib-Goch at about 15:30, in the winter. It was my first grade 1 scramble and I was on my own. Waited for a couple of dry days, did Helvellyn by the Edges and Sharp Edge as a warm-up and then set off. I've had a quick look at my Scrambling books and every one has a definition of scrambling, explanation of the grading, notes on requirements for equipment/ability and warning of the dangers. Yesterday (20 June) Susannah Cox, 37, from Lancaster, also suffered a serious fall. Quite simply one slip of the foot and you would have fallen to your death. However if you are experienced, and have the knowledge and equipment to safeguard them, and if the children are adventurous and active then it would make a wonderful expedition. On 15 June Howard Gladwyn, 48, from West Yorkshire, fell an estimated 700-800 feet from the route and was pronounced dead at the scene. } I've been up Jack's Rake twice now, the first time with two others who I was leading up there, and I felt pretty safe the whole time and loved it. It’s of an unusual type in being a slanting route across a big crag – where the route itself isn’t too tricky in terms of moves but the general seriousness of the situation is considerable. Would MRT scream obscenities at these guys if they were up on Striding Edge? He had a fractured skull, but no spinal injuries. What I want to know is, who decides on the gradings, and can I sue the magazine for the emotional distress of putting my three daughters' lives in peril? How this can be classified as a Level 1 scramble, I'll never know. The only part that requires any climbing skills at all is at the very end. I have only been up once. A. I decided to climb Jack's Rake today. Rather, teach your children mountain craft, introduce them slowly, teach them to recognise and deal with danger. These places are dangerous and should only be attempted by those with previous knowledge and a certain skill level. Well done to those parents in this forum. As for taking children on any grade 1 scramble... you must be mad! It is certainly no place for inexperienced adults to take children, or perhaps even to go without them. I am 5' tall and find the holds big and easy and the rocks don't seem too slippy in rain. It is a bit like trying an 'Easy' climb; if you are a climber it my be easy but for a none climber it will be a terrifying, death defying experience. We were assisted in evacuating her body by Kendal MRT. An air ambulance paramedic joined members of the Langdale Ambleside Mountain Rescue Team in treating the scrambler at the site after the alert was raised at 10.15 this morning. Experience and attitude are important, not age. Everybody is entitled to that feeling, children adults and the elderly. Yes, the actual climbing wasn't the most challenging it was the fact that you were constantly facing the fear of falling and it's virtually impossible to climb down unless you have the right equipment. I am glad that I did so as I reached the top and I have never tasted a finer fig roll nor smoked a cigarette with such relish. The are even at this age quite experienced on the fells, can take a bearing and read a map. COLUMBIA – A memorial service for Jack L. Rake, 83, will be held at 1:00 p.m. on Monday, December 12, 2016 at Caughman-Harman Funeral Home, Lexington Chapel. When I had made the stiff climb up Stickle Ghyll and reached the tarn on that occasion I looked at the rake for the first time and was absolutely petrified. Year after year the Cumbrian emergency services are burdened with the task of rescuing poorly equipped and inexperienced walkers attempting routes which are clearly beyond their ability. 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